With the benefit of an extra Friday slate of games a full analysis of the Section 2 leagues and conferences is upon you. This one is a bit more interesting for me as this is the first time I've delved into this type of analysis for girls basketball. A couple of quick notes before I start. I've been noticing a few differences between the girls and boys stats so far. First of all, if you've been following the leading scorer posts you've seen how in the girls games, the leading scorer's team is more likely to win than for the boys. I think this lends itself to my previous thoughts that there might be a bit more parity in boys basketball. The plus side for the girls is that it might lead to better and more dominant teams, and it's always fun to watch greatness.
Another thing I've noticed is that the private schools in the girls aren't as much of a force as on the boys side. The team with the larger enrollment (typically the public school) is currently winning 60% in girls basketball and only 46% in boys basketball. I think this is mainly due to Emma Willard's significant enrollment advantage over the other teams in the CHVL, but another factor is there is no dominant team like CBA on the girls side consistently beating teams with greater enrollments. Alright, enough with my side notes, without further adieu, the State of the Section.
Girls CHVL
We got a big clue as to how this is going to play out tonight with Waterford beating Heatly by 33. Waterford has won their five league games by an average of 44 points. The real question for Waterford is whether or not they'll have enough to win sectionals with Hoosic Valley, Maple Hill, Fort Plain and Lake George are waiting. They could potentially be a 4th or 5th seed in the forecast with that lineup. Heatly and Emma Willard are next in line but there is a bit of separation between each of the three and with them and the rest of the league.
Girls Adirondack
The East division looks like it could be a solid three team battle between Argyle, Fort Ann and Fort Edward. FE beat Argyle by one in their meeting and Argyle and FA have comparable Margins of Victory (MOV) in their common opponents. All of these teams will also be fighting for the D sectional title.
In the West, Lake George looks to have the upper hand but Warrensburg isn't far behind. The West appears to be playing second fiddle to the East this year with LG beating Hartford by single digits who is already 0-2 in East play.
Girls WAC
Similar to the boys the Southern division has barely played a league game yet, but each of the class C teams has decent out of league wins or near misses. This might be a situation where the team that comes out of it on top has a few losses and could be a tough out as a lower seed in sectionals.
On north side of town Fort Plain and Galway have shown the most promise and FP already has a low single digit win vs. Galway. At this point they are in the driver's seat and it is theirs to lose.
Girls Wasaren
There was a tight game tonight for the leader in the Wasaren between Hoosic Valley and Tamarac with HV coming out on top by 1 point. That is their 3rd one point game out of six total games played. Both teams played tough out of league games so far and this is going to come down to one of them for the title. I'm looking forward to the rematch in this one. One more thing to point out here. Last year HV beat Catholic Central by 20 points. CC only lost 2 Big 10 games last year and those were by a combined 9 points (oh yeah, those two losses were to Albany who lost in the AA final). This year HV lost to CC by 1. It's not often you find C schools that can consistently compete at the same or greater level than solid AA schools and you almost never see it on the boys side. It's one of the things I'm starting to like about girls basketball. The girls have a different kind of parity, between the really good teams.
Girls Patroon
Things start and end with Maple Hill in the Patroon. Taconic Hills will probably end up 2nd and they just lost by 13 to MH. Again, the most important question in the Patroon is whether or not MH has enough to get through the C bracket. I'm really looking forward to the first forecast for this one.
Girls Colonial
There's a gaggle (yes I said gaggle) of good teams here but this is going to come down to Watervliet and Holy Names. The Colonial Council in both boys and girls basketball remains one of the toughest in Section 2 and I'm glad I don't have to navigate through their league schedules. Voorheesville beat Schalmont by 2, Schalmont beat Albany Academy by 8, AA lost to Cohoes by 4 and Cohoes beat Ravena by 4. It's a mess, but fun to look at.
Girls Independent
Albany Leadership finds itself without a home but at least they are playing Section 2 teams, which the model appreciates. They probably won't compete this year but every team provides useful data.
Girls Foothills
Not a whole lot to go on yet, but Scotia and South Glens Falls are both 2-0 with close wins over Johnstown who is now 0-2 and in a tough spot for what seems to be a very competitive team. Queensbury is also 2-0 but not sure where that is going as they haven't played either SG or SGF. On a side note, if anyone knows why Gloversville doesn't have girls team, I'd be interested to know.
Girls Big 10
Did anyone notice I put the Big 10 before the Suburban unlike what I did in the boys SOS? That's because for all the dominance the Big 10 has in boys basketball, the Suburban has it in girls basketball. They have won 8 of the 9 AA championships since the change to 5 classes and have fielded 16 of the 18 title game participants. This year the Big 10 looks an awful lot like last year. Albany and Troy have the most impressive results at the moment with Catholic Central a close third.
Girls Suburban
For all the love I gave the Colonial Council, this might be the toughest league in 2012-2013 for both boys and girls. The defending AA champs returning their best player are currently 1-2. If I had to pick right now I'd have to say Bethlehem wins the South and Shaker the North, but I'm not counting out Colonie yet and Averill Park and Shen are still players. That's 5 teams, 4 in AA that are really good. I wouldn't bet against another all Suburban AA final.
Friday, December 14, 2012
Thursday, December 13, 2012
State of Section 2 Basketball (Boys edition)
I've gone through each League and/or Conference in Section 2 and laid out where we stand at this early stage in the season. Since we haven't gotten to the point where a full Sectional Forecast can be given, perhaps this can satisfy the desire (even if it's only mine) for info. From the CHVL to the Big 10, they are all covered. I'll be following this up with one for the girls in the next couple days. On a programming note, I've decided to hold the first forecast til around the 1st of the year. The Independents and a couple other teams are throwing things off a bit since they really haven't played many in-section games. Without further adieu, the State of the Section....
Boys Foothills
The Suburban has 4 undefeated teams but no one has played more than two league games. Shaker looks the most impressive so far, but I'm sure Shen will be in the hunt as the season moves on. In the South Division both Bethlehem and Colonie are 2-0. There has only been one game between the two divisions so it's hard to even get a read on how they compare within the league. For any league with 12 teams it's gonig to take longer to see how things line up. More time will help clear up the questions.
Boys Big 10
We actually have some games to look at here and even had one surprise already. The Big 10 over the past decade has been CBA's to lose and until proven otherwise that has to be where we stand. That doesn't mean they run away with it. Schenectady and Troy have two common opponents and both beat them by the same combined 50 points. By now we've all seen or heard about LaSalle's 2 point overtime win against Troy, and LaSalle lost to CBA by single digits. I still have to think Troy expects to be in contention until the end but, at this point, there really is not much separation at all between these four teams. I'm sure we'll see somebody bow out earlier than later, after all, someone has to lose these games, but there is potential for this to be a four team run to the end and leave the Big 10 four solid chances at a 10th consecutive AA sectional title.
Boys CHVL
In the CHVL the boys play a 14 game league schedule and although
they are only 3 or 4 games in you can already see this is probably going to be
a two team race and those two teams have already played each other. Germantown and
Loudonville Christian are 3-1 and 4-0 in the league respectively with Germantown’s loss coming
at the hands of LC by 3 points. They are
currently the only two teams in the league with positive point differentials
with both being over 100. I think the
key for who wins the league will be in who performs best against the next tier
of teams of Berlin ,
Doane Stuart and Heatly.
Boys Adirondack
We may already know who is going win each of the Adirondack divisions.
Argyle is 3-0 in East division league play and has an impressive win
over Hoosick Falls in the Wasaren. That helps in determining whether or not they
are really that good or just playing in a weak league. I think the Adirondack
is down a bit this year as a whole, but Argyle is certainly not to blame. The next closest team is probably For Ann but
unless they gel as a team more than they already have it most likely won’t be
that close.
In the West it’s almost the same story for Lake
George . They have won each
of their 3 games by 32 points. They just
don’t have the same kind of out of league win that Argyle has. Warrensburg and North
Warren should be fighting for 2nd and 3rd place
in this one.
Boys WAC
The WAC South has yet to play a conference game and I
haven’t recorded a single game for Middleburgh.
There has been only one common opponent so all I can really tell at this
point is that Duanesburg is probably better than Sharon Springs . Mekeel
Academy is the only B
school and if history is any guide they’ll be on top this year.
In the WAC North there has been limited action, but it looks
like this one could go down to the wire.
Fort Plain currently has the upper hand but 5 of the 9 games played have
been single digit victories and 3 of the other 4 were all against the same
team. They are the only team without at
the least an outside chance to take the division.
Boys Wasaren
This year’s Wasaren looks like a four team battle. Hoosic
Valley struck the first blew against Hoosick Falls
in close game in HF so they have the early lead, but Schuylerville and Stillwater each have 2-0
records as well. The wild cards here are
how Greenwich and
Granville play each of these four teams.
They are a tier below the top four, but don’t be surprised if they throw
an upset against one or more of them and ruin someone’s title hopes.
Boys Patroon
The Patroon Conference plays 16 conference games so it
should be pretty clear at the end who is the best. Presently, however it’s a different
story. Catskill is undefeated and looks
to be on their way, but Cairo-Durham, Hudson
and Maple Hill aren’t far behind. My
guess is that CD, Hudson and MH take each other out of the running and Catskill
is left standing. The most interesting
game so far has been a non-leaguer with Maple Hill and Hoosic Valley . HV won by 18 and though both teams will
probably finish with comparable records, HV’s 7 point win over Hoosick Falls
might indicate the Wasaren class C’s have a very slight edge on the Patroon’s C’s.
Boys Colonial
There haven’t been a lot of games in the Colonial so far
this year, but I’m going out on a limb and saying Watervliet will win this
going away. They might drop a game or
two, but if I said the same thing any other year I’d feel alright about it so
why change now. Unfortunately there just
isn’t much to go on with the teams not having many common opponents at this
point. In another two weeks we’ll be
able to connect the dots a bit better and will revisit.
Boys Foothills
Not much to go on here, but Scotia
looks to be strong again this year winning their three games by a combined 116
points. Based on common opponents, Hudson Falls ,
Johnstown and South Glens
Falls don’t look to be up to the task. We’ll see how the rest of the league shakes
out with Broadalbin-Perth, Glens Falls , Gloversville and Queensbury stacked up behind Scotia .
Boys Independents
Green Tech and Albany Academy don't currently belong to a league and have each only played 1 in-section game, both to Lansingburgh. Both were wins, which shouldn't be surprising. I have been referencing individual game point margins, but it is important to note they are much more useful when taken as a whole than individually. These two teams show no greater proof as GT beat Lansingburgh by 45 more points than AA and then lost to Kingston by 17 while AA beat beat Kingston by 14. So even though GT has a 14 point edge in Margin of Victory (MOV), AA went 2-0 and GT went 1-1
Boys Suburban
Green Tech and Albany Academy don't currently belong to a league and have each only played 1 in-section game, both to Lansingburgh. Both were wins, which shouldn't be surprising. I have been referencing individual game point margins, but it is important to note they are much more useful when taken as a whole than individually. These two teams show no greater proof as GT beat Lansingburgh by 45 more points than AA and then lost to Kingston by 17 while AA beat beat Kingston by 14. So even though GT has a 14 point edge in Margin of Victory (MOV), AA went 2-0 and GT went 1-1
Boys Suburban
The Suburban has 4 undefeated teams but no one has played more than two league games. Shaker looks the most impressive so far, but I'm sure Shen will be in the hunt as the season moves on. In the South Division both Bethlehem and Colonie are 2-0. There has only been one game between the two divisions so it's hard to even get a read on how they compare within the league. For any league with 12 teams it's gonig to take longer to see how things line up. More time will help clear up the questions.
Boys Big 10
We actually have some games to look at here and even had one surprise already. The Big 10 over the past decade has been CBA's to lose and until proven otherwise that has to be where we stand. That doesn't mean they run away with it. Schenectady and Troy have two common opponents and both beat them by the same combined 50 points. By now we've all seen or heard about LaSalle's 2 point overtime win against Troy, and LaSalle lost to CBA by single digits. I still have to think Troy expects to be in contention until the end but, at this point, there really is not much separation at all between these four teams. I'm sure we'll see somebody bow out earlier than later, after all, someone has to lose these games, but there is potential for this to be a four team run to the end and leave the Big 10 four solid chances at a 10th consecutive AA sectional title.
Wednesday, December 12, 2012
Week Three Leading Scorer Tally
We had a big week and lots of games. While the leading scorers are still doing pretty well, they seem to be coming back down to Earth a bit on the boys side, but are still holding strong on the girls side. Leading scorer's are currently winning .776 in boys games and .846 in girls games.
Boys Week 3 - 12/4/12 - 12/10/12
Boys Week 3 - 12/4/12 - 12/10/12
Keneef Danzy and Jeremy Nixon, Albany and Bishop Maginn, 12 pts, T 49-8-3
Anthony Mack, Catholic Central, vs. Amsterdam , 30 pts, W 50-8-3
Ralph Erickson, LaSalle, vs. Troy , 28 pts, W 51-8-3
Dwayne Freeman, Bishop Gibbons, vs. CBA, 23 pts, L 51-9-3
Derek Durkee, Fort Ann , vs. Hartford ,
24 pts, W 52-9-3
Pat LaPorte, Salem, @ Whitehall, 22 pts, L 52-10-3
Joey Lufkin, Argyle, @ Fort Edward ,
34 pts, W 53-10-3
Ethan Wincowski, Lake George, vs. Corinth , 23 pts, W 54-10-3
Nick Perrone and Jesse DeMarsh, Warrensburg and Hadley-Luzerne,
18 pts, T 54-10-4
Nick Sapienza, North Warren, @ Bolton, 14 pts, W 55-10-4
Kyle Hall, Maple Hill, @ Coxsackie-Athens, 17 pts, W 56-10-4
Caleb Gregg, Chatham , @ Rensselaer , 15 pts, L 56-11-4
Brenner Bachman, Greenville ,
vs. Hudson , 28
pts L 56-12-4
Nigel Gray and Sawyer Spohler, Catskill and Cairo-Durham, 13
pts, T 56-12-5
Hunter Goodwin, Gloversville ,
@ Averill Park , 14 pts, L 56-13-5
Zach Sweet, Fort Plain, @ Mayfield, 17 pts, W 57-13-5
Dylan Klock, St.
Johnsville, @ Schoharie, 17 pts, L 57-14-5
Dominic Caputo, Schalmont, Neutral floor Hudson Falls, 22 pts, W 58-14-5
Joe Cremo, Scotia-Glenville, vs. Ravena, 30 pts, W 59-14-5
J. Kelly, Richfield Springs, @ Sharon Springs ,
10 pts, W 60-14-5
Ryan Czarnecki, Saratoga Central Catholic, @ Galway , 15 pts, W 61-14-5
Charlie Peltz,Queensbury, @ Niskayuna, 19 pts, W 62-14-5
Andre Taylor, Broadalbin-Perth, vs. Schuylerville, 21 pts, W 63-14-5
Caleb Stewart, Mekeel
Christian Academy ,
vs. Mechanicville, 16 pts, L 63-15-5
Hoosac
School @ Green Tech
Ezra Glatt, Hawthorne
Valley , vs. Heatly, 22
pts, L 63-16-5
Zach Folts, Canajoharie, @ Northville, 15 pts, W 64-16-5
Rory Siy, Doane Stuart, @ Berlin , 19 pts, W 65-16-5
Nolan Lewis, Germantown , @ Waterford , 22 pts, W 66-16-5
Mat Yamin, Loudonville Christian, vs. New Lebanon, 22 pts, W 67-16-5
Pat LaPorte, Salem, vs. Bolton, 14 pts, W 68-16-5
Devin Murphy, Schalmont, @ Fonda-Fultonville, 13 pts, W 69-16-5
Jerrell Reid, Troy, @ Bishop Maginn, 22 pts, W 70-16-5
Anthony Mack, Catholic Central, vs. Schenectady, 18 pts, L 70-17-5
Dwayne Freeman, Bishop Gibbons, @ Albany, 34 pts, L 70-18-5
John Rooney, Hoosic Valley, @ Hoosick Falls, 19 pts, W 71-18-5
Ryan Buell, Schuylerville, vs. Greenwich, 9 pts, W 72-18-5
Jared Beattie, Granville, vs. Stillwater, 34 pts, L 72-19-5
Matt Parmenter, Cambridge, @ Tamarac, 17 pts, L 72-20-5
Joey Lufkin, Argyle, @ North Warren, 35 pts, W 73-20-5
Ryan Collier, Fort Edward, @ Warrensburg, 28 pts, L 73-21-5
Ethan Wincowski, Lake George, vs. Hartford, 26 pts, W 74-21-5
Blake Basmajian, Corinth, vs. Whitehall, 17 pts, W 75-21-5
Kyle Hall and Travis Overby, Maple Hill and Chatham, 18 pts, T 75-21-6
Mike Bowes, Hudson, vs. Coxackie-Athens, 15 pts, W 76-21-6
Dean Mazzacelli, Taconic Hills, vs. Rensselaer, 16 pts, W 77-21-6
Jordan Brantley, Catskill, @ Greenville, 17 pts, W 78-21-6
Myles Bergere and Lucas Ziegler, Bethlehem and Averill Park, 17 pts, T 78-21-7
Conrad Zampier and Marc Dumoulin, Columbia and Guilderland, 18 pts, T 78-21-8
Jake Samuels, Colonie, @ Mohonasen, 22 pts, W 79-21-8
Rob Knightes and Chris Byno, Burnt Hills and Saratoga Springs, 20 pts, T 79-21-9
Andrew Holmes, Shaker, vs. Ballston Spa, 16 pts, W 80-21-9
Brian Ginter, Northville, @ Sharon Springs, 11 pts, W 81-21-9
Mike Cannizzo, Mechanicville, @ Ravena, 18 pts, L 81-22-9
Girls Week 3 - 12/4/12 - 12/10/12
Cayla Heffern, Heatly, vs. Emma Willard, 13 pts, W 47-7-2
Kendra Houston, New Lebanon, vs. Hawthorne Valley, 10 pts, W 48-7-2
Jenna Erickson, Tamarac, vs. Johnstown, 23 pts, W 49-7-2
Shadasia Alston and Cassia Gravensande, Cohoes and Albany Academy, 12 pts each, T 49-7-3
Emia Willingham-Hurst, Albany, vs. Bishop Maginn, 23 pts, W 50-7-3
Cassidy Chapko, Hoosic Valley, vs. Scotia-Glenville, 22 pts, L 50-8-3
Megan Phelan, Germantown, @ Doane Stuart, 15 pts, W 51-8-3
Emily Forcier, Hudson Falls, vs. Schuylerville, 14 pts, W 52-8-3
Hannah Saroff, Lake George, vs. Corinth, 15 pts, W 53-8-3
Regan McFerran, Catholic Central, @ Amsterdam, 20 pts, W 54-8-3
Dainera Veeder, Canajoharie, vs. Northville, 13 pts, W 55-8-3
Erica Chase, Galway, @ Saratoga Catholic, 10 pts, W 56-8-3
Skylar Girard, Glens Falls, vs. Hoosick Falls, 22 pts, W 57-8-3
Carly Brazil, Waterford, vs. Loudonville Christian, 18 pts, W 58-8-3
Abby Boyer, Fort Plain, vs. Mayfield, 21 pts, W 59-8-3
Jordan Aubin and Kara White, Fort Ann, @ Hartford, 10 pts, W 60-8-3
Brittney Putorti, Whitehall, @ Salem, 16 pts, W 61-8-3
Jacquelyn Miller, Argyle, vs. Fort Edward, 26 pts, L 61-9-3
Elle Underwood, North Warren, vs. Bolton, 15 pts, W 62-9-3
Lindsay Mannion, Maple Hill, vs. Coxsackie-Athens, 16 pts, W 63-9-3
Lauren Konsul, Catskill, vs. Cairo-Durham, 22 pts, W 64-9-3
Alyssa Keeler and Jessina Kelly, Chatham, vs. Rensselaer, 10 pts, W 65-9-3
Amelia Stapleton, Doane Stuart, vs. Doane Stuart, 8 pts, W 66-9-3
Maggie Gordon, Berlin, @ Emma Willard, 11 pts, L 66-10-3
Carly Brazil, Waterford, @ Germantown, 20 pts, W 67-10-3
Miller, Richfield Springs, vs. Sharon Springs, 13 pts, W 68-10-3
Emia Willingham-Hurst, Albany, @ Bishop Gibbons, 20 pts, W 69-10-3
Cayla Heffern, Heatly, @ Loudonville Christian, 22 pts, W 70-10-3
Bella Nelson, Maple Hill, @ Chatham, 12 pts, W 71-10-3
Kayla Brenz, Schuylerville, @ Greenwich, 16 pts, L 71-11-3
Cassidy Chapko, Hoosic Valley, vs. Hoosick Falls, 16 pts, W 72-11-3
Mary Pattison, Troy, vs. Bishop Maginn, 16 pts, W 73-11-3
Kaylie Fish, Saratoga Catholic, @ Canajoharie, 16 pts, L 73-12-3
Tori Menneto, Stillwater, vs. Granville, 13 pts, W 74-12-3
Abby Boyer, Fort Plain, @ Galway, 18 pts, W 75-12-3
Rylie Smith, St. Johnsville, @ Mayfield, 21 pts, L 75-13-3
Christina Tucker, Argyle, vs. North Warren, 18 pts, W 76-13-3
Brittany Sardina, Fort Edward, vs. Warrensburg, 13 pts, W 77-13-3
Sydney Coon, South Glens Falls, vs. Hudson Falls, 11 pts, W 78-13-3
Dana Kupiec, Salem, @ Bolton, 18 pts, L 78-14-3
Mackenzie Bennett, Lake George, @ Hartford, 14 pts, W 79-14-3
Jordan Aubin, Fort Ann, vs. Hadley-Luzerne, 24 pts, W 80-14-3
Danielle Simmons, Rensselaer, @ Taconic Hills, 16 pts, L 80-15-3
Heather Carl and Kassidi Bulich, Greenville and Catskill, 13 pts, T 80-15-4
Naslasja Johnston, Columbia, vs. Guilderland, 12 pts, L 80-16-4
Gabby Giacone, Bethlehem, vs. Averill Park, 31 pts, W 81-16-4
Sydnie Rosales, Colonie, vs. Mohonasen, 22 pts, W 82-16-4
Lindsay Rutz, Saratoga Springs, @ Burnt Hills, 14 pts, W 83-16-4
Madison Rowland, Shaker, @ Ballston Spa, 20 pts, W 84-16-4
Isabella Vanelli, Cohoes, @ Ichabod Crane, 21 pts, W 85-16-4
Hannah Friend, Holy Names, @ Lansingburgh, 18 pts, W 86-16-4
Hope Rebeor, Ravena, @ Mechanicville, 13 pts, W 87-16-4
Morgan Loder, Cobleskill, vs. Albany Academy, 18 pts, W 88-16-4
Hailee Metzold, Schalmont, vs. Fonda-Fultonville, 26 pts, W 89-16-4
Mikayla DeGuire, Watervliet, @ Voorheesville, 16 pts, W 90-16-4
Kaitlin Wood, Broadalbin-Perth, vs. Albany Leadership, 28 pts, W 91-16-4
Skylar Girard, Glens Falls, @ Queensbury, 14 pts, L 91-17-4
Madison Purcell, Catholic Central, @ Schenectady, 19 pts, W 92-17-4
Jenna Erickson and Briana Matazinsky, Tamarac, @ Cambridge, 15 pts, W 93-17-4
Shiann Coons, Bishop Maginn, vs. Emma Willard, 24 pts, W 94-17-4
Stephanie Rice, Duanesburg, vs. Chatham, 23 pts, W 95-17-4
Hope Cerasulo, Johnstown, vs. Amsterdam, 14 pts, W 96-17-4
Abby Fountain, Waterford, vs. Taconic Hills, 20 pts, L 96-18-4
Savanna Fistrowicz, Edmeston, @ Sharon Springs, 14 pts, W 97-18-4
Shiann Coons, Bishop Maginn, Neutral floor Taconic Hills, 21 pts, W 98-18-4
Natalie Kiley-Bergen, Emma Willard, Neutral floor Chatham, 14 pts, W 99-18-4
Stephanie Rice, Duanesburg, @ Waterford, 15 pts, W 100-18-4
Meaghen Sausville, Emma Willard, vs. Doane Stuart, 18 pts, W 101-18-4
Natalie Pikus, Saratoga Catholic, @ Whitehall, 14 pts, L 101-19-4
Jessica VanOrt, Germantown, vs. New Lebanon, 14 pts, W 102-19-4
Alexis McComb, Taconic Hills, vs. Chatham, 15 pts, W 103-19-4
Cassie Broadhead, Scotia-Glenville, @ Johnstown, 30 pts, W 104-19-4
Pat LaPorte, Salem, vs. Bolton, 14 pts, W 68-16-5
Devin Murphy, Schalmont, @ Fonda-Fultonville, 13 pts, W 69-16-5
Jerrell Reid, Troy, @ Bishop Maginn, 22 pts, W 70-16-5
Anthony Mack, Catholic Central, vs. Schenectady, 18 pts, L 70-17-5
Dwayne Freeman, Bishop Gibbons, @ Albany, 34 pts, L 70-18-5
John Rooney, Hoosic Valley, @ Hoosick Falls, 19 pts, W 71-18-5
Ryan Buell, Schuylerville, vs. Greenwich, 9 pts, W 72-18-5
Jared Beattie, Granville, vs. Stillwater, 34 pts, L 72-19-5
Matt Parmenter, Cambridge, @ Tamarac, 17 pts, L 72-20-5
Joey Lufkin, Argyle, @ North Warren, 35 pts, W 73-20-5
Ryan Collier, Fort Edward, @ Warrensburg, 28 pts, L 73-21-5
Ethan Wincowski, Lake George, vs. Hartford, 26 pts, W 74-21-5
Blake Basmajian, Corinth, vs. Whitehall, 17 pts, W 75-21-5
Kyle Hall and Travis Overby, Maple Hill and Chatham, 18 pts, T 75-21-6
Mike Bowes, Hudson, vs. Coxackie-Athens, 15 pts, W 76-21-6
Dean Mazzacelli, Taconic Hills, vs. Rensselaer, 16 pts, W 77-21-6
Jordan Brantley, Catskill, @ Greenville, 17 pts, W 78-21-6
Myles Bergere and Lucas Ziegler, Bethlehem and Averill Park, 17 pts, T 78-21-7
Conrad Zampier and Marc Dumoulin, Columbia and Guilderland, 18 pts, T 78-21-8
Jake Samuels, Colonie, @ Mohonasen, 22 pts, W 79-21-8
Rob Knightes and Chris Byno, Burnt Hills and Saratoga Springs, 20 pts, T 79-21-9
Andrew Holmes, Shaker, vs. Ballston Spa, 16 pts, W 80-21-9
Brian Ginter, Northville, @ Sharon Springs, 11 pts, W 81-21-9
Mike Cannizzo, Mechanicville, @ Ravena, 18 pts, L 81-22-9
Jordan Gleason, Watervliet, vs. Voorheesville, 28 pts, W 82-22-9
Eli Newsome, Cohoes ,
vs. Ichabod Crane, 21 pts, W 83-22-9
Josh Gonzalez, Canajoharie, @ Saratoga Catholic, 24 pts, W 84-22-9
Nick Marini and Greg Stire, CBA, @ Amsterdam, 9 pts each, W 85-22-9
Chris Hanifin, Fort Plain, Neutral floor Chatham , 21 pts, W 86-22-9
Thomas, James Monroe, @ Green Tech, 20 pts, L 86-23-9
Mark McCarty and Jordan Brantley, New Lebanon and Catskill, 12
pts each, T 86-23-10
Anthony Mack, Catholic Central, Neutral floor Kellenberg, 20
pts, L 86-24-10
Nigel Gray, Catskill, Neutral floor Fort Plain, 20 pts, W 87-24-10
Nolan Lewis, Germantown ,
@ Doane Stuart, 18 pts, W 88-24-10
Austin Horton, Heatly, vs. Waterford , 19 pts, W 89-24-10
Zack Krajkowski, New Lebanon ,
vs. Hawthorne Valley , 21 pts, L 89-25-10
Parmentor, Cambridge Latin, @ Mechanicville, 18 pts, L 89-26-10
Gabe Brown, Loudonville Christian, @ Berlin , 24 pts, W 90-26-10
Girls Week 3 - 12/4/12 - 12/10/12
Cayla Heffern, Heatly, vs. Emma Willard, 13 pts, W 47-7-2
Kendra Houston, New Lebanon, vs. Hawthorne Valley, 10 pts, W 48-7-2
Jenna Erickson, Tamarac, vs. Johnstown, 23 pts, W 49-7-2
Shadasia Alston and Cassia Gravensande, Cohoes and Albany Academy, 12 pts each, T 49-7-3
Emia Willingham-Hurst, Albany, vs. Bishop Maginn, 23 pts, W 50-7-3
Cassidy Chapko, Hoosic Valley, vs. Scotia-Glenville, 22 pts, L 50-8-3
Megan Phelan, Germantown, @ Doane Stuart, 15 pts, W 51-8-3
Emily Forcier, Hudson Falls, vs. Schuylerville, 14 pts, W 52-8-3
Hannah Saroff, Lake George, vs. Corinth, 15 pts, W 53-8-3
Regan McFerran, Catholic Central, @ Amsterdam, 20 pts, W 54-8-3
Dainera Veeder, Canajoharie, vs. Northville, 13 pts, W 55-8-3
Erica Chase, Galway, @ Saratoga Catholic, 10 pts, W 56-8-3
Skylar Girard, Glens Falls, vs. Hoosick Falls, 22 pts, W 57-8-3
Carly Brazil, Waterford, vs. Loudonville Christian, 18 pts, W 58-8-3
Abby Boyer, Fort Plain, vs. Mayfield, 21 pts, W 59-8-3
Jordan Aubin and Kara White, Fort Ann, @ Hartford, 10 pts, W 60-8-3
Brittney Putorti, Whitehall, @ Salem, 16 pts, W 61-8-3
Jacquelyn Miller, Argyle, vs. Fort Edward, 26 pts, L 61-9-3
Elle Underwood, North Warren, vs. Bolton, 15 pts, W 62-9-3
Lindsay Mannion, Maple Hill, vs. Coxsackie-Athens, 16 pts, W 63-9-3
Lauren Konsul, Catskill, vs. Cairo-Durham, 22 pts, W 64-9-3
Alyssa Keeler and Jessina Kelly, Chatham, vs. Rensselaer, 10 pts, W 65-9-3
Amelia Stapleton, Doane Stuart, vs. Doane Stuart, 8 pts, W 66-9-3
Maggie Gordon, Berlin, @ Emma Willard, 11 pts, L 66-10-3
Carly Brazil, Waterford, @ Germantown, 20 pts, W 67-10-3
Miller, Richfield Springs, vs. Sharon Springs, 13 pts, W 68-10-3
Emia Willingham-Hurst, Albany, @ Bishop Gibbons, 20 pts, W 69-10-3
Cayla Heffern, Heatly, @ Loudonville Christian, 22 pts, W 70-10-3
Bella Nelson, Maple Hill, @ Chatham, 12 pts, W 71-10-3
Kayla Brenz, Schuylerville, @ Greenwich, 16 pts, L 71-11-3
Cassidy Chapko, Hoosic Valley, vs. Hoosick Falls, 16 pts, W 72-11-3
Mary Pattison, Troy, vs. Bishop Maginn, 16 pts, W 73-11-3
Kaylie Fish, Saratoga Catholic, @ Canajoharie, 16 pts, L 73-12-3
Tori Menneto, Stillwater, vs. Granville, 13 pts, W 74-12-3
Abby Boyer, Fort Plain, @ Galway, 18 pts, W 75-12-3
Rylie Smith, St. Johnsville, @ Mayfield, 21 pts, L 75-13-3
Christina Tucker, Argyle, vs. North Warren, 18 pts, W 76-13-3
Brittany Sardina, Fort Edward, vs. Warrensburg, 13 pts, W 77-13-3
Sydney Coon, South Glens Falls, vs. Hudson Falls, 11 pts, W 78-13-3
Dana Kupiec, Salem, @ Bolton, 18 pts, L 78-14-3
Mackenzie Bennett, Lake George, @ Hartford, 14 pts, W 79-14-3
Jordan Aubin, Fort Ann, vs. Hadley-Luzerne, 24 pts, W 80-14-3
Danielle Simmons, Rensselaer, @ Taconic Hills, 16 pts, L 80-15-3
Heather Carl and Kassidi Bulich, Greenville and Catskill, 13 pts, T 80-15-4
Naslasja Johnston, Columbia, vs. Guilderland, 12 pts, L 80-16-4
Gabby Giacone, Bethlehem, vs. Averill Park, 31 pts, W 81-16-4
Sydnie Rosales, Colonie, vs. Mohonasen, 22 pts, W 82-16-4
Lindsay Rutz, Saratoga Springs, @ Burnt Hills, 14 pts, W 83-16-4
Madison Rowland, Shaker, @ Ballston Spa, 20 pts, W 84-16-4
Isabella Vanelli, Cohoes, @ Ichabod Crane, 21 pts, W 85-16-4
Hannah Friend, Holy Names, @ Lansingburgh, 18 pts, W 86-16-4
Hope Rebeor, Ravena, @ Mechanicville, 13 pts, W 87-16-4
Morgan Loder, Cobleskill, vs. Albany Academy, 18 pts, W 88-16-4
Hailee Metzold, Schalmont, vs. Fonda-Fultonville, 26 pts, W 89-16-4
Mikayla DeGuire, Watervliet, @ Voorheesville, 16 pts, W 90-16-4
Kaitlin Wood, Broadalbin-Perth, vs. Albany Leadership, 28 pts, W 91-16-4
Skylar Girard, Glens Falls, @ Queensbury, 14 pts, L 91-17-4
Madison Purcell, Catholic Central, @ Schenectady, 19 pts, W 92-17-4
Jenna Erickson and Briana Matazinsky, Tamarac, @ Cambridge, 15 pts, W 93-17-4
Shiann Coons, Bishop Maginn, vs. Emma Willard, 24 pts, W 94-17-4
Stephanie Rice, Duanesburg, vs. Chatham, 23 pts, W 95-17-4
Hope Cerasulo, Johnstown, vs. Amsterdam, 14 pts, W 96-17-4
Abby Fountain, Waterford, vs. Taconic Hills, 20 pts, L 96-18-4
Savanna Fistrowicz, Edmeston, @ Sharon Springs, 14 pts, W 97-18-4
Shiann Coons, Bishop Maginn, Neutral floor Taconic Hills, 21 pts, W 98-18-4
Natalie Kiley-Bergen, Emma Willard, Neutral floor Chatham, 14 pts, W 99-18-4
Stephanie Rice, Duanesburg, @ Waterford, 15 pts, W 100-18-4
Meaghen Sausville, Emma Willard, vs. Doane Stuart, 18 pts, W 101-18-4
Natalie Pikus, Saratoga Catholic, @ Whitehall, 14 pts, L 101-19-4
Jessica VanOrt, Germantown, vs. New Lebanon, 14 pts, W 102-19-4
Alexis McComb, Taconic Hills, vs. Chatham, 15 pts, W 103-19-4
Cassie Broadhead, Scotia-Glenville, @ Johnstown, 30 pts, W 104-19-4
Friday, December 7, 2012
First Thoughts on Tonight's Games 12/7/12
Strong schedule or weak schedule, that is the question. For a coach and an Athletic Director anyway. I have been following Section 2 basketball since 1995. Some years more than others, but I've always been interested in who teams play when they get to choose their opponent. It's kind of like the friends vs. family dynamic. Your family is your conference, your friends are your non-league games. Some schools have more options than others due to geography, but you can sometimes get a sense of how good a coach thinks his or her team is by who they schedule outside their league.
What I mean by that is there are really two goals to any season, winning your league/conference, and winning sectionals (or state's if you desire). But, the two don't necessarily go hand in hand when setting your schedule. You obviously want to win your league, but you also want to prepare yourself for the chance at winning sectionals. There are two competing theories on this and one hybrid. The first is playing weaker teams racking up wins and increasing your chances for a better seed in sectionals. The second is playing a tougher schedule so you are more prepared for the tougher competition at the end of the season. You could also mix them and get the best of both worlds.
So what is better? I believe it depends on what kind of a team you think you have. If you think you're going to run through your conference you might as well schedule tougher teams. If you know you don't have much, schedule the weaker teams so you can boost your players' confidence a bit. If you just don't know or are middle of the pack, do a little of both and hope for the best.
That's the long way of getting to my first thoughts on tonight's games. There is one really good example of weak vs. strong schedules in the Wasaren League tonight. Schuylerville (strong schedule) vs. Greenwich (weak schedule). Schuylerville chose to go up in Leagues and play Cohoes from the Colonial and Broadalbin-Perth from the Foothills. They have a history of doing this and have been pretty consistent in their competitiveness over that time. Greenwich played a group of teams that may or may not be at the top of their leagues, but will probably fall somewhere in the middle. They also went down in leagues (in terms of average enrollments) playing the WAC and Adirondack. Schuylerville came into the game 1-1, Greenwich 4-0. The result was a 15 point win for Schuylerville.
I don't know about the rest of you out there, but I don't have the time to watch too many games. I usually write well past when the games end, which is when I finally have time to sit down. For those of us who don't get to watch all that often, little clues from scheduling and statistics can go a long way into telling you what is really going on within all these leagues.
What I mean by that is there are really two goals to any season, winning your league/conference, and winning sectionals (or state's if you desire). But, the two don't necessarily go hand in hand when setting your schedule. You obviously want to win your league, but you also want to prepare yourself for the chance at winning sectionals. There are two competing theories on this and one hybrid. The first is playing weaker teams racking up wins and increasing your chances for a better seed in sectionals. The second is playing a tougher schedule so you are more prepared for the tougher competition at the end of the season. You could also mix them and get the best of both worlds.
So what is better? I believe it depends on what kind of a team you think you have. If you think you're going to run through your conference you might as well schedule tougher teams. If you know you don't have much, schedule the weaker teams so you can boost your players' confidence a bit. If you just don't know or are middle of the pack, do a little of both and hope for the best.
That's the long way of getting to my first thoughts on tonight's games. There is one really good example of weak vs. strong schedules in the Wasaren League tonight. Schuylerville (strong schedule) vs. Greenwich (weak schedule). Schuylerville chose to go up in Leagues and play Cohoes from the Colonial and Broadalbin-Perth from the Foothills. They have a history of doing this and have been pretty consistent in their competitiveness over that time. Greenwich played a group of teams that may or may not be at the top of their leagues, but will probably fall somewhere in the middle. They also went down in leagues (in terms of average enrollments) playing the WAC and Adirondack. Schuylerville came into the game 1-1, Greenwich 4-0. The result was a 15 point win for Schuylerville.
I don't know about the rest of you out there, but I don't have the time to watch too many games. I usually write well past when the games end, which is when I finally have time to sit down. For those of us who don't get to watch all that often, little clues from scheduling and statistics can go a long way into telling you what is really going on within all these leagues.
Wednesday, December 5, 2012
The Impact of Troy's Loss to LaSalle on Sectionals
I know we're only in the third week of the season and there are some teams that haven't even played two games yet, but since the Sectional Forecast is one of the main components of the blog it is never too early to start dissecting how it will play out.
In a normal year Troy would be playing in the A bracket based on their enrollment and this loss probably wouldn't do much harm given how well they performed last year in AA and their expectations for this year. But, we've learned Troy will be playing in AA this year, my thanks to Eric Medved. Hearing this news, I figured Troy must have been pretty confident they could win sectionals in AA to take on that task since they would be heavy favorites in A. Of course we really have no idea how the rest of the season is going to turn out yet, but given how the AA bracket is drawn this could have an impact and most certainly will on the Sectional Forecast.
For the most part the AA bracket is based off the Big 10 and Suburban Council's final standings. For the Big 10, since there aren't multiple divisions, you can basically just line them up by wins. In order for Troy to hold the B1 position in the bracket they have to run the table to clinch and that would have to come with another LaSalle loss along the way. Their destiny is no longer in their hands, they now need help. Taking it one step (and loss) further, if they split with CBA, they would still need another loss by LaSalle and two more losses by CBA to clinch outright.
For the Sectional Forecast it is less clear. Troy already has a 57 point win over Bishop Gibbons and that puts them in a good spot because CBA's win over Bishop Gibbons was 31 points less than that. Playing out the different Margin Of Victories can get complicated and confusing so I'll spare you any further pain, but I will note that once you average over 28 points per game you are judged equally so no team picks up additional Sectional Forecast points. There is a chance though that Troy can pull ahead based on MOV if they finish with comparable records.
At this early date there are a lot of ways it can go. The one thing that is clear is that it just got a whole lot more interesting in the AA bracket.
In a normal year Troy would be playing in the A bracket based on their enrollment and this loss probably wouldn't do much harm given how well they performed last year in AA and their expectations for this year. But, we've learned Troy will be playing in AA this year, my thanks to Eric Medved. Hearing this news, I figured Troy must have been pretty confident they could win sectionals in AA to take on that task since they would be heavy favorites in A. Of course we really have no idea how the rest of the season is going to turn out yet, but given how the AA bracket is drawn this could have an impact and most certainly will on the Sectional Forecast.
For the most part the AA bracket is based off the Big 10 and Suburban Council's final standings. For the Big 10, since there aren't multiple divisions, you can basically just line them up by wins. In order for Troy to hold the B1 position in the bracket they have to run the table to clinch and that would have to come with another LaSalle loss along the way. Their destiny is no longer in their hands, they now need help. Taking it one step (and loss) further, if they split with CBA, they would still need another loss by LaSalle and two more losses by CBA to clinch outright.
For the Sectional Forecast it is less clear. Troy already has a 57 point win over Bishop Gibbons and that puts them in a good spot because CBA's win over Bishop Gibbons was 31 points less than that. Playing out the different Margin Of Victories can get complicated and confusing so I'll spare you any further pain, but I will note that once you average over 28 points per game you are judged equally so no team picks up additional Sectional Forecast points. There is a chance though that Troy can pull ahead based on MOV if they finish with comparable records.
At this early date there are a lot of ways it can go. The one thing that is clear is that it just got a whole lot more interesting in the AA bracket.
Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Week Two Leading Scorer Tally
Here is the tally for week two. A lot more games this week and it looks like it is quickly turning into a blowout. If this keeps up, I'll just make a page for all of the games and keep it updated without new posts.
Boys Week Two 11/27/12-12/3/12
Colin Oswald, Greenwich, vs. Warrensburg, 21 pts, W 7-1-1
David Warnken, Ravena, Neutral floor Hudson Falls, 19 pts, W 8-1-1
Joe Cremo, Scotia, vs. Schalmont, 23 pts, W 9-1-1
Chris Hanafin, Fort Plain, vs. Galway, 18 pts, W 10-1-1
Jordan Brantley and Travis Overby, Catskill and Chatham, @ Chatham, 13 pts each, T 10-1-2
Logan Samarija, Maple Hill, vs. Greenville, 15 pts, W 11-1-2
Chance Ryan, Cairo-Durham, vs. Coxsackie-Athens, 14 pts, W 12-1-2
Dan Waldron, Schuylerville, @ Cohoes, 24 pts, W 13-1-2
Nick Sapienza, North Warren, @ Northville, 14 pts, W 14-1-2
Yunus Demiroglu, Doane Stuart, vs. Darrow, 14 pts, W 15-1-2
James Lloyd, Faith Christian, @ Loudonville Christian, 22 pts, L 15-2-2
Anthony Chiacaiza, Taconic Hills, vs. Hudson, 13 pts, L 15-3-2
John Rooney, Hoosic Valley, @ Berlin, 31 pts, W 16-3-2
Dan Waldron, Schuylerville, @ Cohoes, 24 pts, W 17-3-2
Jordan DeCicco, Kingston, Neutral floor Green Tech, 33 pts, W 18-3-2
Andre Taylor, Broadalbin-Perth, Neutral floor Cobleskill, 16 pts, W 19-3-2
Stephen James, Ichabod Crane, Neutral floor Schoharie, 18 pts, W 20-3-2
Kevin Shannon, Canajoharie, @ Waterford, 15 pts, W 21-3-2
John Dunleavy, Malone, Neutral floor Berne-Knox, 16 pts, W 22-3-2
Darius Macon, Schenectady, vs. Bishop Maginn, 23 pts, W 23-3-2
Jerrell Reid, Troy, vs. Bishop Gibbons, 27 pts, W 24-3-2
Daniel Owens, CBA, vs. Catholic Central, 18 pts, W 25-3-2
Logan Samarija, Maple Hill, vs. Rensselaer, 15 pts, W 26-3-2
Brenner Bachman, Greenville, @ Coxsackie-Athens, 19 pts, W 27-3-2
Sawyer Spohler, Cairo-Durham, @ Hudson, 17 pts, W 28-3-2
Daniel Green, Catskill, vs. Taconic Hills, 20 pts, W 29-3-2
Mat Yamin, Loudonville Christian, vs. Duanesburg, 17 pts, W 30-3-2
Jared Beattie, Granville, @ Hudson Falls, 29 pts, L 30-4-2
Ralph Erickson, LaSalle, @ Amsterdam, 26 pts, W 31-4-2
Will Turner, Fonda-Fultonville, vs. Johnstown, 19 pts, W 32-4-2
Rick Buser, South Glens Falls, vs. Saratoga Catholic, 19 pts, W 33-4-2
Greg Scott, Greenwich, vs. Galway, 15 pts, W 34-4-2
Malik Miller, Lansingburgh, @ Albany Acadmy, 16 pts, L 34-5-2
Teddy McCarthy, Shenendehowa, @ Ogdensburg, 20 pts, L 34-6-2
Kyle Gibbs, Berne-Knox, Neutral floor Bolton, 26 pts, W 35-6-2
Joey Lufkin, Argyle, vs. Hoosick Falls, 35 pts, W 36-6-2
Shane Morris, Ichabod Crane, Neutral floor South Glens Falls, 18 pts, W 37-6-2
Connor Brown, Schoharie, @ Saratoga Catholic, 21 pts, W 38-6-2
Josh Orton, Waterford, Neutral floor Galway, 32 pts, W 39-6-2
John Barnes, Greenwich, vs. Canajoharie, 20 pts, W 40-6-2
Jamil Hood Jr., Green Tech, Neutral floor Lansingburgh, 22 pts, W 41-6-2
Ricky Mitchell, Johnstown, Neutral floor Cobleskill, 16 pts, W 42-6-2
Jack Morrow, Albany Academy, vs. Kingston, 24 pts, W 43-6-2
Will Turner, Fonda-Fultonville, vs. Broadalbin-Perth, 13 pts, W 44-6-2
Mike Cannizzo, Mechanicville, vs. Stillwater, 22 pts, W 45-6-2
Dylan Toscano, Mayfield, vs. Mekeel Academy, 19 pts, W 46-6-2
Jon Rach, Saratoga Springs, vs. Guilderland, 18 pts, W 47-6-2
Jeff Curtis, Berlin, vs. Hawthorne Valley, 13 pts, W 48-6-2
Zack Krajkowski, New Lebanon, vs. Waterford, 19 pts, L 48-7-2
Gabe Brown, Loudonville Christian, @ Germantown, 21 pts, W 49-7-2
Rory Sly, Doane Stuart, @ Heatly, 31 pts, L 49-8-2
Girls Week Two 11/27/12-12/4/12
Macie Holmes, Mekeel Academy, @ Mayfield, 23 pts, W 8-1
Lindsay Mannion, Maple Hill, @ Greenville, 15 pts, W 9-1
Alyssa Keeler and Grace Rugen, Chatham, @ Catskill, 7 pts each, W 10-1
Alexis McComb, Taconic Hills, @ Hudson, 11 pts, W 11-1
Cassidy Chapko, Hoosic Valley, vs. Hudson Falls, 29 pts, W 12-1
Lyndsey Wadsworth, Northville, @ Hadley-Luzerne, 25 pts, W 13-1
Meghan Araldi, Doane Stuart, vs. Darrow, 11 pts, W 14-1
Talya Williams, Bishop Gibbons, @ Albany Academy, 19 pts, L 14-2
Sarah Bentley, Berlin, vs. Hawthorne Valley, 10 pts, W 15-2
Erin Langworthy, Warrensburg, vs. Johnsburg, 26 pts, W 16-2
Cassidy Allen, Loudonville Christian, @ Faith Christian, 18 pts, W 17-2
Nicole Zacchio, Cairo-Durham, @ Coxsackie-Athens, 16 pts, W 18-2
Alexis Case and Monica Harvey, Greenwich and Glens Falls, 15 pts, T 18-2-1
Emily Petruccione and Bri Plummer, Saratoga Springs, vs. Hudson Falls, 15 pts, W 19-2-1
Taylor Wetsky, Fonda-Fultonville, @ Galway, 12 pts, W 20-2-1
Kiana Patterson, Troy, @ Bishop Gibbons, 16 pts, W 21-2-1
McKenna Gordon, Albany Leadership, @ Lansingburgh, 11 pts, W 22-2-1
Isabella Nelson, Maple Hill, vs. Rensselaer, 12 pts, W 23-2-1
Ashlee McDonald, Amsterdam, @ Albany Leadership, 14 pts, W 24-2-1
Boys Week Two 11/27/12-12/3/12
Colin Oswald, Greenwich, vs. Warrensburg, 21 pts, W 7-1-1
David Warnken, Ravena, Neutral floor Hudson Falls, 19 pts, W 8-1-1
Joe Cremo, Scotia, vs. Schalmont, 23 pts, W 9-1-1
Chris Hanafin, Fort Plain, vs. Galway, 18 pts, W 10-1-1
Jordan Brantley and Travis Overby, Catskill and Chatham, @ Chatham, 13 pts each, T 10-1-2
Logan Samarija, Maple Hill, vs. Greenville, 15 pts, W 11-1-2
Chance Ryan, Cairo-Durham, vs. Coxsackie-Athens, 14 pts, W 12-1-2
Dan Waldron, Schuylerville, @ Cohoes, 24 pts, W 13-1-2
Nick Sapienza, North Warren, @ Northville, 14 pts, W 14-1-2
Yunus Demiroglu, Doane Stuart, vs. Darrow, 14 pts, W 15-1-2
James Lloyd, Faith Christian, @ Loudonville Christian, 22 pts, L 15-2-2
Anthony Chiacaiza, Taconic Hills, vs. Hudson, 13 pts, L 15-3-2
John Rooney, Hoosic Valley, @ Berlin, 31 pts, W 16-3-2
Dan Waldron, Schuylerville, @ Cohoes, 24 pts, W 17-3-2
Jordan DeCicco, Kingston, Neutral floor Green Tech, 33 pts, W 18-3-2
Andre Taylor, Broadalbin-Perth, Neutral floor Cobleskill, 16 pts, W 19-3-2
Stephen James, Ichabod Crane, Neutral floor Schoharie, 18 pts, W 20-3-2
Kevin Shannon, Canajoharie, @ Waterford, 15 pts, W 21-3-2
John Dunleavy, Malone, Neutral floor Berne-Knox, 16 pts, W 22-3-2
Darius Macon, Schenectady, vs. Bishop Maginn, 23 pts, W 23-3-2
Jerrell Reid, Troy, vs. Bishop Gibbons, 27 pts, W 24-3-2
Daniel Owens, CBA, vs. Catholic Central, 18 pts, W 25-3-2
Logan Samarija, Maple Hill, vs. Rensselaer, 15 pts, W 26-3-2
Brenner Bachman, Greenville, @ Coxsackie-Athens, 19 pts, W 27-3-2
Sawyer Spohler, Cairo-Durham, @ Hudson, 17 pts, W 28-3-2
Daniel Green, Catskill, vs. Taconic Hills, 20 pts, W 29-3-2
Mat Yamin, Loudonville Christian, vs. Duanesburg, 17 pts, W 30-3-2
Jared Beattie, Granville, @ Hudson Falls, 29 pts, L 30-4-2
Ralph Erickson, LaSalle, @ Amsterdam, 26 pts, W 31-4-2
Will Turner, Fonda-Fultonville, vs. Johnstown, 19 pts, W 32-4-2
Rick Buser, South Glens Falls, vs. Saratoga Catholic, 19 pts, W 33-4-2
Greg Scott, Greenwich, vs. Galway, 15 pts, W 34-4-2
Malik Miller, Lansingburgh, @ Albany Acadmy, 16 pts, L 34-5-2
Teddy McCarthy, Shenendehowa, @ Ogdensburg, 20 pts, L 34-6-2
Kyle Gibbs, Berne-Knox, Neutral floor Bolton, 26 pts, W 35-6-2
Joey Lufkin, Argyle, vs. Hoosick Falls, 35 pts, W 36-6-2
Shane Morris, Ichabod Crane, Neutral floor South Glens Falls, 18 pts, W 37-6-2
Connor Brown, Schoharie, @ Saratoga Catholic, 21 pts, W 38-6-2
Josh Orton, Waterford, Neutral floor Galway, 32 pts, W 39-6-2
John Barnes, Greenwich, vs. Canajoharie, 20 pts, W 40-6-2
Jamil Hood Jr., Green Tech, Neutral floor Lansingburgh, 22 pts, W 41-6-2
Ricky Mitchell, Johnstown, Neutral floor Cobleskill, 16 pts, W 42-6-2
Jack Morrow, Albany Academy, vs. Kingston, 24 pts, W 43-6-2
Will Turner, Fonda-Fultonville, vs. Broadalbin-Perth, 13 pts, W 44-6-2
Mike Cannizzo, Mechanicville, vs. Stillwater, 22 pts, W 45-6-2
Dylan Toscano, Mayfield, vs. Mekeel Academy, 19 pts, W 46-6-2
Jon Rach, Saratoga Springs, vs. Guilderland, 18 pts, W 47-6-2
Jeff Curtis, Berlin, vs. Hawthorne Valley, 13 pts, W 48-6-2
Zack Krajkowski, New Lebanon, vs. Waterford, 19 pts, L 48-7-2
Gabe Brown, Loudonville Christian, @ Germantown, 21 pts, W 49-7-2
Rory Sly, Doane Stuart, @ Heatly, 31 pts, L 49-8-2
Girls Week Two 11/27/12-12/4/12
Macie Holmes, Mekeel Academy, @ Mayfield, 23 pts, W 8-1
Lindsay Mannion, Maple Hill, @ Greenville, 15 pts, W 9-1
Alyssa Keeler and Grace Rugen, Chatham, @ Catskill, 7 pts each, W 10-1
Alexis McComb, Taconic Hills, @ Hudson, 11 pts, W 11-1
Cassidy Chapko, Hoosic Valley, vs. Hudson Falls, 29 pts, W 12-1
Lyndsey Wadsworth, Northville, @ Hadley-Luzerne, 25 pts, W 13-1
Meghan Araldi, Doane Stuart, vs. Darrow, 11 pts, W 14-1
Talya Williams, Bishop Gibbons, @ Albany Academy, 19 pts, L 14-2
Sarah Bentley, Berlin, vs. Hawthorne Valley, 10 pts, W 15-2
Erin Langworthy, Warrensburg, vs. Johnsburg, 26 pts, W 16-2
Cassidy Allen, Loudonville Christian, @ Faith Christian, 18 pts, W 17-2
Nicole Zacchio, Cairo-Durham, @ Coxsackie-Athens, 16 pts, W 18-2
Alexis Case and Monica Harvey, Greenwich and Glens Falls, 15 pts, T 18-2-1
Emily Petruccione and Bri Plummer, Saratoga Springs, vs. Hudson Falls, 15 pts, W 19-2-1
Taylor Wetsky, Fonda-Fultonville, @ Galway, 12 pts, W 20-2-1
Kiana Patterson, Troy, @ Bishop Gibbons, 16 pts, W 21-2-1
McKenna Gordon, Albany Leadership, @ Lansingburgh, 11 pts, W 22-2-1
Isabella Nelson, Maple Hill, vs. Rensselaer, 12 pts, W 23-2-1
Ashlee McDonald, Amsterdam, @ Albany Leadership, 14 pts, W 24-2-1
Megan Phelan, Germantown ,
vs. Emma Willard, 11 pts, L 24-3-1
Riley Luckie, Ogdensburg, @ Queensbury, 16 pts, L 24-4-1
Taylor Boucher, Fort
Edward , vs. New Hartford,
19 pts, W 25-4-1
Abby Fountain, Waterford ,
@ New Lebanon, 23 pts, W 26-4-1
Renee Handy, Sharon
Springs , vs. Worcester , 15 pts, L 26-5-1
Emily Gaige, Schoharie, vs. Margaretville, 20 pts, W 27-5-1
Alexis Kane and Tereza
Vanolst, Canajoharie and Dolgeville, 10 pts, T 27-5-2
Briana Matazinsky, Tamarac , @
Mekeel Academy , 24 pts, W 28-5-2
Heather Carl, Greenville ,
vs. Coxsackie-Athens, 18 pts, W 29-5-2
Cortlynn Jepsen, Hudson ,
@ Cairo-Durham, 17 pts, W 30-5-2
Alexis McComb, Taconic Hills, vs. Catskill, 17 pts, W 31-5-2
Courtney Lane ,
Bishop Maginn, vs. Schenectady ,
16 pts, W 32-5-2
C. Henderson, Heatly, @ Doane Stuart, 20 pts, W 33-5-2
Courtney Cirillo, Johnstown ,
vs. Stillwater ,
14 pts, W 34-5-2
Cassidy Chapko, Hoosic
Valley , @ Catholic
Central, 24 pts, L 34-6-2
Aubrie Zecca, Mechanicville, vs. Schuylerville, 14 pts, W 35-6-2
Emily Parslow, Fonda-Fultonville, @ Canajoharie, 18 pts, W 36-6-2
Nikari Carota, Queensbury, vs. New Hartford, 16 pts, W 37-6-2
Alexis Smith, South Glens Falls, @ Schenectady , 20 pts, W 38-6-2
Erica Chase, Galway , Neutral
floor Dolgeville, 13 pts, L 38-7-2
Emia Willingham-Hurst, Albany ,
vs. Kingston , 26
pts, W 39-7-2
Haley Kilmartin, Fort Plain, vs. Herkimer, 15 pts, W 40-7-2
Elizabeth Harvey, Berne-Knox, Neutral floor Herkimer, 21
pts, W 41-7-2
Elizabeth Harvey, Berne-Knox, Neutral floor Poland , 30 pts,
W 42-7-2
Natalie Kiley-Bergen, Emma Willard, vs. New Lebanon, 14 pts,
W 43-7-2
Erin Langworthy, Warrensburg, vs. Hadley-Luzerne, 15 pts, W 44-7-2
Abby Fountain, Wateford, @ Doane Stuart, 24 pts, W 45-7-2
Kaitlin Wood, Broadalbin-Perth, vs. Middleburgh, 26 pts, W 46-7-2
Sunday, December 2, 2012
The Importance of Non-League Games
My favorite part of the schedule is the very beginning and then again during the Christmas tournaments. These are the times when most of the games being played are done so outside of a teams respective league. No matter what means you use to evaluate teams, these non-league games are the most important. They allow you to put into context the accomplishments of each team within their own conference. It's the same reason that makes college football so difficult to rank. There are over 100 teams and only 10 or 11 games, most of those in conference. There just isn't enough data to get a good feel on which conference really is the best.
This is part of the reason they use computers to help rank the teams. It takes a more systematic approach. College basketball on the other hand plays 30 or so games which allows them to play a greater number of non-league games. This gives the selection committee a greater amount of data to look at and why they don't necessarily need computer help.
So, what is it that we can learn from the games so far and how they compare the different leagues and conferences? Not that much yet because we don't know how good certain teams are with respect to the rest of the teams in their leagues, but there is some things we can tell. Let's start with the large schools. There has only been one non-league game played by either the Big 10 or Suburban and it was a win over a Foothills school. That shouldn't be a huge shock as the Suburban schools have much larger enrollments than the Foothills. Historically the Big 10 does slightly better than .500 mostly due to the private schools like CBA, Bishop Maginn and LaSalle play a lot of their non-league schedule outside the section (which aren't included in the calculation). The remaining teams typically pick up their games in the Suburban so near or a little above .500 should be expected.
On the girl's side the non-league schedules vary a bit and the bigger schools tend to reach a little further down the enrollment ladder for their games. Rarely on the boy's side will you see a Suburban school play a team from the WAC, but Duanesburg played 4 games in the Big 10 or Suburban last year on their girl's schedule. Catholic Central seems to play the Wasaren's Hoosic Valley every year and Bishop Maginn also played Schuylerville and the CHVL's Waterford. The boy's only had 4 games in the upper two leagues that played games that low down the enrollment ladder and they were against the same two teams.
The Foothills and Colonial Council are the next in line and they have played a fair number of their non-league schedules so far between each other with the Foothills winning 3 and Colonial winning 4. The top of the Foothills is typically a little better than the top of the Colonial, but the middle and bottom teams are about equal. The opposite can be said of the girl's.
The Patroon, Wasaren and the Southern Division of the WAC are mostly B and C schools and are next in order. The Patroon can be tough to get a read on because they play 16 of their 18 games in conference and a lot of the southern portion of the conference tends to play out of section teams. On the boy's side, the Wasaren looks good so far going 8 and 4, but 7 of those games have come against schools smaller than themselves. On the girl's side the opposite is true, they are 2-5, but 5 have come against larger schools. Berne-Knox looks interesting going 3-0 for the boy's, but we'll need more information on how those schools they beat fare in their own leagues.
The WAC North, Adirondack and CHVL round things out. On the boy's side they are a combined 6-13, on the girl's 2-4. This is actually to be expected as almost all of their non-leagues games are played against larger schools, mostly because there are so few D schools and they are so scattered on the map it really doesn't make a lot of sense to travel to play them. In a way, that makes it easier to compare them because you know they probably won't be as competitive.
We'll know a lot more in a few weeks when the league and conference schedules are in full swing and we can see how all these teams compare, but other than sectionals, it's still the most interesting and important part of the schedule to analyze.
This is part of the reason they use computers to help rank the teams. It takes a more systematic approach. College basketball on the other hand plays 30 or so games which allows them to play a greater number of non-league games. This gives the selection committee a greater amount of data to look at and why they don't necessarily need computer help.
So, what is it that we can learn from the games so far and how they compare the different leagues and conferences? Not that much yet because we don't know how good certain teams are with respect to the rest of the teams in their leagues, but there is some things we can tell. Let's start with the large schools. There has only been one non-league game played by either the Big 10 or Suburban and it was a win over a Foothills school. That shouldn't be a huge shock as the Suburban schools have much larger enrollments than the Foothills. Historically the Big 10 does slightly better than .500 mostly due to the private schools like CBA, Bishop Maginn and LaSalle play a lot of their non-league schedule outside the section (which aren't included in the calculation). The remaining teams typically pick up their games in the Suburban so near or a little above .500 should be expected.
On the girl's side the non-league schedules vary a bit and the bigger schools tend to reach a little further down the enrollment ladder for their games. Rarely on the boy's side will you see a Suburban school play a team from the WAC, but Duanesburg played 4 games in the Big 10 or Suburban last year on their girl's schedule. Catholic Central seems to play the Wasaren's Hoosic Valley every year and Bishop Maginn also played Schuylerville and the CHVL's Waterford. The boy's only had 4 games in the upper two leagues that played games that low down the enrollment ladder and they were against the same two teams.
The Foothills and Colonial Council are the next in line and they have played a fair number of their non-league schedules so far between each other with the Foothills winning 3 and Colonial winning 4. The top of the Foothills is typically a little better than the top of the Colonial, but the middle and bottom teams are about equal. The opposite can be said of the girl's.
The Patroon, Wasaren and the Southern Division of the WAC are mostly B and C schools and are next in order. The Patroon can be tough to get a read on because they play 16 of their 18 games in conference and a lot of the southern portion of the conference tends to play out of section teams. On the boy's side, the Wasaren looks good so far going 8 and 4, but 7 of those games have come against schools smaller than themselves. On the girl's side the opposite is true, they are 2-5, but 5 have come against larger schools. Berne-Knox looks interesting going 3-0 for the boy's, but we'll need more information on how those schools they beat fare in their own leagues.
The WAC North, Adirondack and CHVL round things out. On the boy's side they are a combined 6-13, on the girl's 2-4. This is actually to be expected as almost all of their non-leagues games are played against larger schools, mostly because there are so few D schools and they are so scattered on the map it really doesn't make a lot of sense to travel to play them. In a way, that makes it easier to compare them because you know they probably won't be as competitive.
We'll know a lot more in a few weeks when the league and conference schedules are in full swing and we can see how all these teams compare, but other than sectionals, it's still the most interesting and important part of the schedule to analyze.
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